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SunsetSuperman
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Posted: 11/23/2007 7:14:08 PM
You're short

BuzWeaver

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Posted: 11/23/2007 8:08:37 PM
enjoythemode
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Posted: 11/23/2007 8:56:15 PM
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you worship a creator because you are feeble-minded.

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-unfortunately, though this is rather simple/straight-forward, they still can't wrap their heads around it.

enjoythemode
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Posted: 11/23/2007 11:21:38 PM
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The Atheist's Riddle:

http://cosmicfingerprints.com/iidb.htm


"2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information. "

Evolution and synaptic formation.

There's 2 natural processes known to science that creates coded information.


kahal, don't even start. if they havent snapped out of it by now, they're never going to.

enjoythemode
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Posted: 11/24/2007 8:44:45 AM
just dont call it scientific theory, cause that would require facts and evidence.
SunsetSuperman
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Posted: 11/24/2007 8:49:09 AM
I don't really see why I should be worshiping anything, everything I have in my life I've gotten myself, I should just give thanks to myself.

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Posted: 11/24/2007 10:02:32 AM
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The Atheist's Riddle:

http://cosmicfingerprints.com/iidb.htm


"2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information. "

Evolution and synaptic formation.

There's 2 natural processes known to science that creates coded information.


Feel free to enter the discussion.


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Posted: 11/24/2007 10:05:03 AM
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The Atheist's Riddle:

http://cosmicfingerprints.com/iidb.htm


"2) All codes are created by a conscious mind; there is no natural process known to science that creates coded information. "

Evolution and synaptic formation.

There's 2 natural processes known to science that creates coded information.


kahal, don't even start. if they havent snapped out of it by now, they're never going to.


If anyone needs to do some snapping out it would be Atheist.


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Posted: 11/24/2007 10:06:01 AM
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I worship the sun.

I can see it.

Without it, I wouldn't be here.

It gives me food and makes the panet a beautiful place to live with green grass, trees and flowers.

It asks nothing of me.
It doesn't ask me to go to church on a certain day.
It doesn't ask me to read a book every day.
NOTHING.

Infact, the sun does nothing but give me more and more every day without asking anything in return.

The sun is my one and only god.

Me and the sun are best friends.

I worship the Earth as my godess.

She protects and shields me from the harmful things up and beyond.

She gives me oxygen to breathe.

She gives me water to live

She gives me creatures to explore.

She gives me mountains and waterfalls to gaze at in awe.

She asks nothing in return.

All the Sun and the Earth ask of me is to live.

I'll do that.


One could worship the sun, however your doctrine is impracticable.

Shaggin
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Posted: 11/24/2007 1:51:33 PM
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MY PROSPECTIVE IS FEED THEM,,SO i DO WEEKLY,,NEVERMIND THERE THOUGHTS,,WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO HELP THEM?


Which is a good thing to do. But a belief in a god is not a pre-requisite for helping other humans.


it certainly helps,i dont do the leg work,envalopes,stamps and all.. I have to do is go to church and tithe,thats basic 10 comandment stuff,God made it ez, for me,you see if I didnt belive in god I wouldn't go to church and not have the oppertunity to serve starving kids i'd never get to see.it's not a pre-requisite at all,,but it is a weekly reminder for you know us "feeble -minded,"need that lol.


save yourself the "leg work" and the church
http://www.supportunicef.org/forms/whichcountry2.html
(this is only one example of many where you might find the opportunity to serve starving kids that you'd never get to see without a connection to the church or a belief in god)

Shaggin
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Posted: 11/24/2007 2:09:36 PM
Speaking of missing the point completely...refer to Kahalachan's comment from the previous page

"...a belief in a god is not a pre-requisite for helping other humans."


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Posted: 11/24/2007 2:40:44 PM
You see Atheist have to perpetuate their attack on Christianity because exposing the conflicted and self defeating ideology of Atheism can be so easily summed up. Atheism by its very nature is contradictory and unsustainable even when 'they' espouse intelligence and logic, which is actually quite amusing.

When 'some' people here argue on the side of or profess by some absurd virtue about their intelligence, all they are doing is leveraging intelligence as though it were some facade or ornament they tangle around their minds, kind like the punk posers who carry guns to give the illusion they are important and are to be respected.

Shaggin
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Posted: 11/24/2007 3:12:45 PM
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You see Atheist have to perpetuate their attack on Christianity because exposing the conflicted and self defeating ideology of Atheism can be so easily summed up. Atheism by its very nature is contradictory and unsustainable even when 'they' espouse intelligence and logic, which is actually quite amusing.

When 'some' people here argue on the side of or profess by some absurd virtue about their intelligence, all they are doing is leveraging intelligence as though it were some facade or ornament they tangle around their minds, kind like the punk posers who carry guns to give the illusion they are important and are to be respected.


While we're on the topic, let's talk about contradictions shall we?

A far from exhaustive list of the many glaringly obvious contradictions contained within the Bible:

Sabbath Day
"Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy." -- Exodus 20:8

"One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind." -- Romans 14:5


The Permanence of the Earth
"... the earth abideth for ever." -- Ecclesiastes 1:4

"... the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up." -- 2Peter 3:10


Seeing God
"... I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." -- Genesis 32:30

"No man hath seen God at any time..."-- John 1:18


The Power of God
"... with God all things are possible." -- Matthew 19:26

"...The LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron." -- Judges 1:19


Dealing with Personal Injury
"...thou shalt give life for life, Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot. burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe. " -- Exodus 21:23-25

"...ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on the right cheek, turn to him the other also." -- Matthew 5:39


Circumcision
"This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised." -- Genesis 17:10

"...if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing." -- Galatians 5:2


Incest
"Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of this mother..." -- Deuteronomy 27:22

"And if a man shall take his sister, his father's daughter, or his mother's daughter...it is a wicked thing...." -- Leviticus 20:17

(What was god's reaction to Abraham, who married his sister -- his father's daughter?) See Genesis 20:11-12

"And God said unto Abraham, As for Sara thy wife...I bless her, and give thee a son also of her..." -- Genesis 17:15-16


Punishing wrong doings
"The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father..." -- Ezekiel 18:20

"I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation..." -- Exodus 20:5


Temptation
"Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man." -- James 1:13

"And it came to pass after these things, that God did tempt Abraham..." -- Genesis 22:1


Familial Relationships
"Honor thy father and thy mother..."-- Exodus 20:12

"If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple. " -- Luke 14:26


Ressurection of the Dead
"...he that goeth down to the grave shall come up no more. " -- Job 7:9

"...the hour is coming, in which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice, and shall come forth...." -- John 5:28-29

Shaggin
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Posted: 11/24/2007 3:17:04 PM
Should we kill?
Ex. 20:13 Thou shalt not commit murder.
Ex. 32:27 Thus saith the Lord God of Israel, put every man his sword by his side...and slay every man his brother...companion..neighbor.(See also 1 Sam. 6:19; 15:2,3; Num. 15:36)


Should we tell lies?
Ex. 20:16 Thou shalt not bear false witness.(Prov. 12:22; Rev. 21:8)
1 Kings 22:23 The Lord hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these thy prophets, and the Lord hath spoken evil concerning thee. (II Thess. 2:11; Josh. 2:4-6 with James 2:25)


Shall we make Graven images?
Ex. 20:4. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven...earth...water. (Lev. 26:1)
EX. 25:18 And thou shalt make two cherubims of gold, of beaten work shalt thou make them.


Are we "saved" through works?
Eph. 2:8,9 For by grace are ye saved through faith...not of works. (Rom. 3:20, 28; Gal. 2:16)
James 2:24 Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.(Matt. 19:16-21)


Should good works be seen?
Matt. 5:16 Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works. (I Peter 2:12)
Matt. 6:1-4 Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them...that thine alms may be in secret. (Matt. 23:5)


Does God change his mind?
Mal. 3:6. For I am the Lord; I change not. Num. 23:19 God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent. (Ezek. 24:14; James 1:17)
Ex. 32:14. And the Lord repented of the evil which he had thought to do unto his people. (Gen. 6:6; Jonah 3:10; Sam. 2:30-31; II Kings 20:1-6; Num. 16:20-35)


Is God inherently good?
Psa. 145:9. The Lord is good to all. (Deut. 32:4; James 1:13)
Is. 45:7 I make peace and create evil. I the Lord do all these things. (Lam 3:38; Jer. 18:11; Ezek. 20:25)


Is God Peace-loving?
John 14:27 Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you. (Luke 2:14; Acts 10:36)
Matt. 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth, I came not to send peace, but a sword. (Matt. 10:35-37; Luke 22:36)


Shall we call people names?
Matt. 5:22 Whosoever shall say Thou fool, shall be in danger of hellfire.
Matt. 23:17 (Jesus said) Ye fools and blind.


How many gods are there?
Deut. 6:4 The Lord or God is one Lord.
Gen. 1:26 And God said, let us make man in our image.(Gen. 3:22; I John 5:7)


When was Jesus crucified?
Mark 15:22 and it was the third hour, and they crucified him.
John 19:14-15 And about the sixth hour: and he saith unto the Jews, Behold your King! But they cried out...crucify him!"


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Posted: 11/24/2007 4:21:36 PM
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worship the created thing,insteed of the creator?

I worship my parents


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Posted: 11/24/2007 4:23:03 PM
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While we're on the topic, let's talk about contradictions shall we?

A far from exhaustive list of the many glaringly obvious contradictions contained within the Bible:


The bible really is a big load of bullshit

enjoythemode
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Posted: 11/24/2007 5:28:31 PM
haha @ buz and his halfwit sidekick.

i present thee two gifts:

its time to wake up and smell them.

theotherguy
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Posted: 11/24/2007 5:57:09 PM
It all evolves around answering the question...WHY? If people didn't beleive in there being a reason then society as we know it would not be as it is today....maybe better maybe worse!!!!

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Posted: 11/24/2007 6:12:55 PM
~ we are born into Original Sin; the Law only condemns, but Grace saves.

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Posted: 11/24/2007 6:14:31 PM
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haha @ buz and his halfwit sidekick.

i present thee two gifts:

its time to wake up and smell them.


time for someone to eat their own medicine