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dish network has channels in HD and regular
is that what u talkin bout?

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yes..he would need to subscribe to the HD dish channels if he wanted to actually watch HD programing on his HD set from DISH

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dish network has channels in HD and regular
is that what u talkin bout?

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Sorta yes. Need to have an HD sat reciever to have HD programming...

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my question is, to what degree does going through the old standard coax cables that're inside the walls of an older house degrade an HD signal? like, if I buy an HDTV and go to watch baseball in HD (I do get HD channels from my cable provider), will I actually be seeing HD?

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The HD signals can be sent over the existing coax..either from a rooftop antenna or your cable provider

While it is possible to get HD over coax without a box it is rare. My provider has a few that they offer without a box. and most people wouldn't know how to program their sets to get them.. I am on sat anyway...

as far as age and quality.. all depends on the condition of the connectors and if there is any shielding and what not exposed anywhere in the system

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my question is, to what degree does going through the old standard coax cables that're inside the walls of an older house degrade an HD signal? like, if I buy an HDTV and go to watch baseball in HD (I do get HD channels from my cable provider), will I actually be seeing HD?

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it takes quite a bit to degrade a digital signal to the point of having problems..
the prob with cable providers is they compress the signal quite a bit to save bandwidth... it makes the picture not so hot by the time it gets to you.

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ok...the fiancee of the friend I visited over spring break works for comcast and he was mentioning how he didn't think verizon fios could perform as well as they say on the commericals unless you get your entire house wired for fiber optics because in his work he sees a lot of signal degradation and heat generation in the boxes that comcast has where their fiber optic cables switch over to coax and I was wondering if regular cable HD signals would suffer the same degradation

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realistically if your house is wired with ethernet, you'll have no degradation with FIOS.
cable is a bit diff as it's not a great method for transferring data.. but with digial stuff, if you DO have enough degradation to make a difference.. your signal will be pretty awful.

as for heat generation.. the cable boxes are just crappy... can't be as hot as a PS3 though :|

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I'm getting HD crystal clear over 25 year old coax that runs from an antenna the previous owner put on the roof. I get another 45 channels of HD over newer cat 5 cabling that AT&T just installed last fall.

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yeah exactly... digital transmission has quite a bit of tolerance.. it's easier to transmit than analog.

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ok...the fiancee of the friend I visited over spring break works for comcast and he was mentioning how he didn't think verizon fios could perform as well as they say on the commericals unless you get your entire house wired for fiber optics because in his work he sees a lot of signal degradation and heat generation in the boxes that comcast has where their fiber optic cables switch over to coax and I was wondering if regular cable HD signals would suffer the same degradation

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He is mistaken. Sorry. I worked for Comcast for a little while and well what he is saying is just lack of knowledge.

as far as comcast network... they run fiber out to nodes out in the network.. (ariel nodes or those boxes you see in subdivisions) at those points they are converted from light to digital signal to be transmitted over coax. Where cable companies signal gets degraded the most is when the connections are bad and you have "leaks" Also splitters and what not will degrade the signal. The heat that is generated at the "conversion nodes" is minimal... and that is not where the lossees occur unless there is a problem.

and fios, if i am not mistaken, is supposed to be fiber to the house...

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I'm getting HD crystal clear over 25 year old coax that runs from an antenna the previous owner put on the roof. I get another 45 channels of HD over newer cat 5 cabling that AT&T just installed last fall.

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yeah exactly... digital transmission has quite a bit of tolerance.. it's easier to transmit than analog.

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and much more forgiving

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ok...the fiancee of the friend I visited over spring break works for comcast and he was mentioning how he didn't think verizon fios could perform as well as they say on the commericals unless you get your entire house wired for fiber optics because in his work he sees a lot of signal degradation and heat generation in the boxes that comcast has where their fiber optic cables switch over to coax and I was wondering if regular cable HD signals would suffer the same degradation

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I have something similar to that verizon product that AT&T offers as UVERSE. It distributes the signal through an IP system and the cabling within the house is standard cat 5 ethernet. The fiber optics does not come all the way into the house but the conversion from fiber to coax happens within about 1,000 feet of each house.

My AT&T Uverse has been amazingly good. It delivers an exceptional digital signal on all channels and the HD ones are perfect.

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so basically he just needs the 720p or w/e
and then to have dish send the HD channels, and possibly a new dish receiver?
no other shit to buy?

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for a 26" tv, mos deff that would be good.

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so basically he just needs the 720p or w/e
and then to have dish send the HD channels, and possibly a new dish receiver?
no other shit to buy?

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a 720P capable set plus the HD signal source such as a DISH network HD subscription should do it. Dish will I'm sure have to provide him with a new receiver for on top of his TV though. He may also possibly need a new dish outside..I'm not sure what kind of DISH dish he has now

so he wont be far from the tv