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EyeKnow

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Posted: 5/12/2008 6:01:54 PM
I don't think she has an endgame. I think she still considers herself to be a legitimate contender for the nomination. It's really very Clintonian of her. They are both so self-centered, that they think they are entitled to the White House. I'm enjoying watching her go down in flames.

This country needs to move on from the Bush/Clinton regimes. That's the real change.


smilin

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Posted: 5/12/2008 8:15:25 PM
No endgame.

Perhaps running the Senete once Harry is tossed?

Obama won't include her.......the "new Washington" slogan doesn't mesh with the "same ole Clinton bullshit" reality.


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Posted: 5/12/2008 8:21:19 PM
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No endgame.

Perhaps running the Senete once Harry is tossed?

Obama won't include her.......the "new Washington" slogan doesn't mesh with the "same ole Clinton bullshit" reality.

She isn't popular enough in the Senate to end up in that seat.

If Harry can win...Hillary can win.


enjoythemode

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Posted: 5/12/2008 8:23:22 PM
lol, so true

bammbamm21

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Posted: 5/13/2008 11:26:28 PM
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My point is that McCain, even if he had dirt on Obama, would see no advantage to putting it out there right now. The republicans want Obama as the nominee because he is the weaker candidate for the general election. Polling as shown this for months. The republicans wanted the primary to continue because it enabled McCain to restrengthen. If he doesn't have to spend any money now it helps him later.
umm thats actually what mccain has been doing. he has been basically ignoring hillary and focusing all his negative campaigning on obama

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/6730
http://newsblaze.com/story/20080510110214reye.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.html


cant find the yahoo article at the moment but this just seems like another oxygen deprived thought from you


enjoythemode

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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:44:44 AM
she can't be doing that good of a job, obama is trouncing mccain in almost every head to head poll.

MXRulez96

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Posted: 5/14/2008 9:05:23 AM
Webmach has a point when you think about...Hillary is winning states that Obama needs to win the general election...will those states switch over to Obama when he accepts the nomination? let's hope so
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Posted: 5/14/2008 9:08:26 AM
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Webmach has a point when you think about...Hillary is winning states that Obama needs to win the general election...will those states switch over to Obama when he accepts the nomination? let's hope so

Don't hope...examine the possibility with an honest assessment. I don't think he's going to get the majority of her states, and he may even lose some he won in the primaries...remember, the Wright issue came after some of his bigger wins...that may change the minds of some people. Not saying it should, but it could.

enjoythemode

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Posted: 5/14/2008 9:29:24 AM
a lot of her states are traditional dem states anyway, and yes of course he will win them. on the same token, he can win a handful of states that would be entirely out of the cards.

face it republicans, you know damn well youd rather face hillary than obama. i think both would win, but i know obama will.


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Posted: 5/14/2008 9:55:41 AM
she has the highest negative rating of any candidate that ran this time, highest negative rating next to president bush. she would also sacrifice his change/new theme. however, she would be a strong running mate, and they would have a media monopoly. i would hate to see obama having to answer questions about bill or hillary for weeks, though. i have doubts he chooses her, but i guess we'll see what happens.

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Posted: 5/14/2008 9:57:05 AM
as for the swing state argument, like i said many of those states will go blue anyhow, like usual. obama is beating mccain with independents, etc. whats more, obama brings other states into the mix that may not have been there before, particular the midwest, colorado, new mexico, etc.

bammbamm21

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Posted: 5/14/2008 10:27:58 AM
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Trust me I know plenty about campaigning. He is talking about the front runner because he has to have comparative difference between his policies and what the "other" guy is going to do. Rarely do you campaign and target the person who isn't the front runner. But hey I guess that is too simple a concept for you pea-size nugget of a brain to grasp. I mean seriously get a grip.

If they have something on Obama it serves no purpose to use it before he is the actual nominee. They can let Clinton do the damage for them. And from the looks of the poling data concerning who her supporters will vote for in the general election, if Obama is the nominee, she is doing a bang up job.

u know anything thats not just your opinion? that remains to be seen. what has been seen is that mccain is totally ignoring hillary and focusing completly on obama. choose to ignore that fact if you wish, but it is fact. not opinion.

mccain is scared plain and simple. he is already campaigning for president and figures he needs all the time he can get to defeat obama. makes perfect sense and once again supported by fact. not your opinion. but alas your oxygen deprived brain fails to see the difference. i remain unsurprised.


EyeKnow

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Posted: 5/14/2008 3:37:35 PM
I actually think Obama is easier for McCain to beat. He's got a lot of negatives that have only scratched the surface. A lot of people are still drinking the Clinton Kool-Aid.

Let's face facts, none of the candidates this year were worth a damn. Just like the last 2 elections.


enjoythemode

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Posted: 5/14/2008 4:46:55 PM
i don't see how you figure obama being easier to beat, he's easily more popular.

EyeKnow

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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:03:59 PM
There is a lot of time and he's got a lot of issues that McCain can ping on. For a while, I was actually considering him, but I dislike his wife more than I dislike Hillary, and man, I really couldn't stand her when she was First Lady.

Granted, as I said, I didn't like any of the candidates this time around, again. I just think that Obama is going to have a lot of obstacles to overcome.

I wish politics weren't as dirty, corrupt, or self-serving as they are. Whatever happened to people that genuinly want what's best for the country, not some special interest groups.

A very cynical independent sends.


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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:10:52 PM
ALL I KNOW IS EDWARDS HAS JUST ENDORSED OBAMA..... cough cough eehhhhhe cough

http://apnews.myway.com//article/20080515/D90LPK5O0.html


enjoythemode

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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:16:34 PM
well, quite a bit earlier today, but yes he has. and its a strategic move after the WV loss, to help the super delegates keep rolling in. for the last time, edwards will NOT be the VP. attorney general, perhaps, but not VP.

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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:17:41 PM
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well, quite a bit earlier today, but yes he has. and its a strategic move after the WV loss, to help the super delegates keep rolling in. for the last time, edwards will NOT be the VP. attorney general, perhaps, but not VP.

its a longshot out of how many it could be but we will c....


enjoythemode

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Posted: 5/14/2008 7:19:00 PM
no, believe me. theres 0% chance, he doesnt want it, and obama doesnt want to offer it (to him).

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Posted: 5/14/2008 8:23:10 PM
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u know anything thats not just your opinion? that remains to be seen. what has been seen is that mccain is totally ignoring hillary and focusing completly on obama. choose to ignore that fact if you wish, but it is fact. not opinion.

mccain is scared plain and simple. he is already campaigning for president and figures he needs all the time he can get to defeat obama. makes perfect sense and once again supported by fact. not your opinion. but alas your oxygen deprived brain fails to see the difference. i remain unsurprised.

Why exactly would he be scared of Obama? There isn't a poll out there that shows Obama as the stronger general election candidate.

pfff. try again.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/general_election_mccain_vs_obama-225.html#polls

have fun.