in the 5 seasons that they have been members of the elite spenders they have won 2 league cups, 1 FA cup and, most importantly and impressively, 2 league championships - in a row. if they win the CL, that's a pretty efficient allocation of resources given that the club was nothing better than a mid table bruiser.

now look at liverpool: a club with that kind of stature, history and pedigree has won one FA cup and a champions league. no league in nearly 20 years. this is the result of poor transfer policy, poor board room management, tossy managers and whoring out to owners who don't give a shit. the key here is the lack of league championships in 20 years. much longer and liverpool will no longer be deserving of top 4 status. 20 years is far, far too long to be able to put yourself in the same bracket as milan, man utd, arsenal, juventus, barcelona and real madrid.

no more excuses left. 4th place and a semi in the CL is utter shit. but liverpool fans will still sneer at chelsea and continue to win nothing.

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poor mans chelsea.. hmm.

chelsea:

First Division/Premier League: 3
1954–55, 2004–05, 2005–06

FA Cup: 4
1970, 1997, 2000, 2007

League Cup: 4
1965, 1998, 2005, 2007

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup: 2
1971, 1998

European Super Cup: 1
1998

Liverpool:

League:
Winners (18)
1900–01, 1905–06, 1921–22, 1922–23, 1946–47, 1963–64, 1965–66, 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90
Runners-up (11):
1898–89, 1909–10, 1968–69, 1973–74, 1974–75, 1977–78, 1984–85, 1986–87, 1988–89, 1990–91, 2001–02

FA Cup
Winners (7):
1965, 1974, 1986, 1989, 1992, 2001, 2006
Runners-up (6):
1914, 1950, 1971, 1977, 1988, 1996

League Cup
Winners (7):
1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1995, 2001, 2003
Runners-up (3):
1978, 1987, 2005

European Cup and UEFA Champions League
Winners (5):
1977, 1978, 1981, 1984, 2005
Runners-up (2):
1985, 2007

UEFA Cup
Winners (3):
1973, 1976, 2001

UEFA Super Cup
Winners (3):
1977, 2001, 2005
Runners-up (2):
1978, 1984

UEFA Cup Winners' Cup
Runners-up (1):
1966

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how many leagues has liverpool won in the 21st century? they need to be renamed Benfica.

Chelsea

2004
carvalho 19.85m
drogba 24m
kezman 5m
robben 9m
cech 9m
ferreira 13.2m

2005
essien 24.4m
wright-phillips 21m
del horno 8m

2006
Kalou 8m
Shevchenko 30m
Mikel- 16m

total on these players alone

187.45m

and you're crying about liverpool spending 20m on 1 player
seriously?

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how many leagues has liverpool won in the 21st century? they need to be renamed Benfica.

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gets hard to win the league when we don't have the 200m chelsea do to spend on players.
how many have anyone but arsenal and man u won?

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yep, that's the pettiness i was referring to. for decades liverpool have had lots of cash to spend. in the 90s they had lot of cash and still couldn't win the league. now they have lot of cash and they can't win. there are, actually, no excuses.

all the resources, brand power and facilities and they still do jack shit. constantly making the wrong decisions. liverpool's ineptitude is nothing to do with money. finishing 11+ points off the top is pretty lame.

Way too much competition.

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gets hard to win the league when we don't have the 200m chelsea do to spend on players.
how many have anyone but arsenal and man u won?

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yep, that's the pettiness i was referring to. for decades liverpool have had lots of cash to spend. in the 90s they had lot of cash and still couldn't win the league. now they have lot of cash and they can't win. there are, actually, no excuses.

all the resources, brand power and facilities and they still do jack shit. constantly making the wrong decisions. liverpool's ineptitude is nothing to do with money. finishing 11+ points off the top is pretty lame.

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i'm not saying we shouldnt have won at least 1 in the last 20 years. but i am saying that there is no way we spend as much as chelsea.

Mourinho has been touted.

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thats the kind of blatent disregarding i expected from you.
you compared a 20m striker to hundreds of millions spent by chelsea along with their insane wages to players who are not worth it. well done. well done.

i'm not saying we shouldnt have won at least 1 in the last 20 years. but i am saying that there is no way we spend as much as chelsea.

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hey american, if you new anything about the premier league before you started watching it, you'd know that the only reason liverpool ever won anything is because they were big hitters in the transfer market. the reason that they can only scrape into europe now is because they are inefficient and inept.

sven might finish 12th next season and then you'll all look silly.

chelsea's acheivements since 2003, from being a mid table team to one that can compete at the top in europe is so much more impressive than anything that liverpool have done. i suppose it takes a neutral to see that.

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talking of players who aren't worth the money, they seem to be in the CL final and joint top of the premiership. lol.

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2005
essien 24.4m worth it? yeah
wright-phillips 21m worth it? no
del horno 8m worth it? no

2006
Kalou 8m worth it? mmmm... right now no, maybe later.
Shevchenko 30m worth it? lolol
Mikel- 16m worth it? not yet, but probably soon

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somejaseguy fails to see that the only way a team can break into the top 4 and stay there is to spend money.

chelsea's acheivements since 2003, from being a mid table team to one that can compete at the top in europe is so much more impressive than anything that liverpool have done. i suppose it takes a neutral to see that.

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thats the kind of blatent disregarding i expected from you.
you compared a 20m striker to hundreds of millions spent by chelsea along with their insane wages to players who are not worth it. well done. well done.

i'm not saying we shouldnt have won at least 1 in the last 20 years. but i am saying that there is no way we spend as much as chelsea.

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man utd and arsenal can win the league without spending as much either.

hey american, if you new anything about the premier league before you started watching it, you'd know that the only reason liverpool ever won anything is because they were big hitters in the transfer market. the reason that they can only scrape into europe now is because they are inefficient and inept.

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ok fine. they are just a better club in every other department. whoops.